Oops my doctor thinks I’m a wackadoodle…

I don’t know if I’ve ever mentioned it before, but in “real life” (because…my words on the internet aren’t real life?) I’m a researcher.

I work at a university, I have a masters degree and I began my doctorate but deferred my studies when my ex-husband left me in 2014. Eventually I hope to go back, finish my PhD, and become Doctor Sadie. Yes Doctor Sadie – because in the world of pseudo-anonymous online blogging, there are no surnames…

The fact I was born with the ability to conduct rigorous academic research in my sleep has been both a curse and a blessing over the past few years.

It’s meant I was always fully capable of arming myself with cold hard facts during fertility treatment, IVF, surgeries, miscarriages, and all the other fun stuff us infertiles get to deal with on the daily. I always bypassed the anecdotal evidence available in copious amounts on Google, and went straight for the good stuff in peer reviewed academic journals.

And every time my hairdresser would say something like “Oh well my sister’s best friend’s cousin’s accountant was doing IVF and she started drinking Pepsi Max and fell pregnant straight away.” instead of rushing out and buying Pepsi Max by the carton I would think hmmm I wonder if there have been any clinical trials conducted on the effects of aspartame in infertile women under the age of 30.

But on the flip side, it’s also meant a lot of sleepless nights for me. Too much knowledge can be dangerous. Too much knowledge leads to anxiety, depression and sometimes mild hysteria. Knowing risk factors, knowing the research, the statistics, the likely outcomes…is not always a benefit.

But now I’m pretty sure my current obstetrician, Doctor Eminem, thinks I’m a wackadoodle. Why? Well I’m glad you asked because I’m going to tell you.

I attended my 28 week appointment yesterday. I’m actually 29 weeks but due to scheduling issues, we had the appointment a little later than usual.

First up I was given the news that I don’t have gestational diabetes. This absolutely shocked me, to be honest. I’m carrying a huge-ass bump out the front of my person. Like I mean people are already stopping me in the street and asking if I’m overdue. And don’t get me started on the old “is it twins?” jaunt. Why do people think it’s okay to ask that question? I don’t go up to random strangers and ask them why they’re so damn fat.

Plus don’t forget that PCOS puts me into a high risk category for GD (hello years of metformin!), I have a family history, I’ve stacked on way too much weight (already up 12kg – or 26 pounds – by 27 weeks, though this can likely be chalked up to emotional eating due to stress) and I fainted at work the other week.

So I was fully expecting the news that I would be replacing my Snickers bars with celery sticks. But all rejoice! The Snickers gets to stay!

Next up we did some measurements. My fundal height is now 31 weeks. This is no surprise to me as like I said, I’m carrying big. My tilted uterus makes me look even bigger than 31 weeks so I was just glad he didn’t say I was measuring 36 weeks or something!

Next up, I got my ultrasound. In Australia, in the private health system, you get an ultrasound every 4 weeks. At my last ultrasound (which you’ll know was at 24 weeks if you can count backwards in denominations of four ;)) my fatso baby was measuring at 25+4.

This time, her tummy is measuring 30+6, her legs 30+5 and her head 31 weeks. So that’s pretty much perfectly consistent with my fundal height of 31 weeks. Is it because we don’t know when I conceived and I’m actually 31 weeks along? Or is she just a monster baby?

She weighs approximately 1500 grams (3.3 pounds) which is 400 grams more than she should weigh at 29 weeks but spot-on for 31 weeks. Hmmm….

After the scan was done, Doctor Eminem tried to convince me to schedule an elective c-section to protect my pelvic floor from my monster baby. I am absolutely against this for a number of reasons.

I told him that firstly I want to be able to experience vaginal birth as this is likely the only time I’ll get to do this. Secondly, I want to be able to get up and move around straight after I give birth. Thirdly, the short-term recovery is better for vaginal births.

Lastly (and most importantly) I want the dump of hormones and chemicals after a natural birth that lowers a mother’s risk of postnatal depression. Given I’ve had multiple miscarriages and I’m still going through prenatal depression, I’m already in a very high risk category for PND. I don’t want to increase my risk any further by having an elective c-section.

Doctor Eminem worked out pretty quickly I wasn’t going to budge on that one, so then he started talking to me about elective induction instead. He actually gave me some copies of some studies conducted recently that show women who have elective inductions between 38 and 40 weeks gestation have a 19% lower risk of emergency c-section and their infant mortality rate was less than half that of women whose babies are born after their estimated due date.

The studies he provided me with are quite compelling but I’m not entirely convinced because I know that on the flipside the epidural rate is 20% higher in inductions (and of course an epidural will also prevent that dump of happy hormones after birth) plus I also don’t like the idea of being stuck to an IV drip and not being able to walk around during contractions.

I’m also looking at studies that show when a mother’s brain signals that it’s time to start labour (yes we spell labour with a “u” in Australia – deal with it) the baby’s lungs are coated with an extra large dose of a protein called surfactant that helps the baby to transition to breathing air after they are born.

Surfactant coats the baby’s lungs from around 32 weeks gestation onwards, however right before birth they receive a large and crucial dose. That dose is never provided to the baby during an induction because the process is artificial so the mother’s brain misses the signal, and this is why induced babies are more likely to suffer respiratory problems as newborns.

So with regards to the induced labour I have some more research to do and some decisions to make.

But then I was all like “Hey Doc, while we’re talking about medical studies I’d like to raise a few questions with you.”

He was all like “Oh okay Sadie sure.”

And then…I hit him with the wackadoodle!

“As you know,” I began. “I’m Rh negative and due now for my first shot of anti-d” (that’s a Rogam shot for you Americans)

“Yes.” said the doctor. “You’ll receive your first anti-d injection today.”

“Well, keeping in mind that I clearly understand why this shot is administered and I’ve happily had the shot after all of my previous miscarriages, I’d like to discuss the persistent assertion that women who have the anti-d injection are at an increased risk of having a child with autism.”

*silence*

“As a researcher I’m very aware that correlation and causation are two different things.” I continued. “I’m also very aware that a lot of the evidence that supports this claim is purely anecdotal. But a study was conducted which demonstrated a 62% increase of autism in the children of women who had the anti-d injection. Of course this could be a genetic factor linked to the Rh negative blood itself and the fact these women received the shots was just coincidence. Can you please debunk this theory for me so I can have a clear conscience when you administer my anti-d injection?”

*more silence*

And then I’m just looking at the doctor like oh crap please don’t think I’m crazy because honestly I’m happy to have the shot! I just really wanted some good medical studies to put my mind at ease.

I’m not a person who believes in woo-woo pseudo science. I’m not a person who believes that autism is caused by basically anything and everything including vaccinations, patting your head whilst rubbing your tummy or listening to Justin Bieber music (which, I’d like to add, is a well known use of torture in prison camps around the world).

But there’s a very strong genetic history of autism in James’ family. It’s across several generations but seems to be getting worse. In fact, James has a brother and a sister. Between the three siblings, they have had four children.

His sister’s son is far enough along the spectrum that he has to attend special school and both of his brother’s sons are also autistic. One nephew is severely autistic and non-verbal.

The only child in the new generation of his family not to have autism so far is James’ own son Isaac. So of course autism is something I’m very aware of, even with the understanding that the condition is genetic and cannot for the most part be avoided.

And if I do have an autistic child that’s totally fine and I will love her no differently and raise her to be a beautiful young woman. Just so we’re clear. I just don’t ever want to feel guilt for causing her autism through a decision I made. Get what I’m saying?

“You know what Sadie?” Doctor Eminem finally said. “Don’t have the shot.”

“But…but…I want to have the shot!” I spluttered. “I don’t want to risk my baby being Rh positive, my body creating antibodies and hurting the baby!”

“If you started bleeding would you agree to have the shot immediately?” he asked.

“Yes of course!” I answered.

“Well then the risk to your current baby is quite frankly nil.” he said. “Once upon a time, the anti-d injection wasn’t manufactured in large quantities so Rh negative mothers only received the shot once their baby was born. They didn’t get the shots at 28 and 36 weeks. And in all my years as an obstetrician, I’ve never once seen a woman develop antibodies. So we’ll wait until the baby is born like they did a few years ago, and give you the shot then. That way not only are your hypothetical future babies protected but if your current baby ends up having autism you’ll know it’s not because you got that injection.”

I had to admit, Doctor Eminem’s logic was sound. I wasn’t aware that up until recently women only received the shot once their babies were born. That made me feel a lot better.

Plus…let’s be honest…the chance of Miss Infertile Australia spontaneously falling pregnant twice in her lifetime is slim to nil. So future babies are unlikely to be a factor to stress about…

“Right.” I said. “Let’s move on to the whooping cough vaccination.”

*silence*

*crickets chirping*

*tumbleweed rolls past the doctor’s desk*

“Vaccinations don’t cause autism.” Doctor Eminem blurted out, a wild look in his eyes.

“I absolutely agree.” I said ardently. “I’m a very strong proponent of vaccinations and my child will be fully vaccinated. I am fully vaccinated. I had a whooping cough booster only two years ago! Every single person who will be coming into contact with the baby in her first few weeks of life including James, my parents, his parents and my grandparents have been given a booster since I fell pregnant.”

“Okay so what’s the problem?” he asked.

“Well I just want some evidence of the safety of administering the booster whilst pregnant.” I explained. “The Boostrix vaccine insert recommends the shot not be given to pregnant women. I understand this is because vaccine manufacturers routinely exclude pregnant women from their clinical trials and I’m not questioning this. But from what I can see, the only clinical trials that have been conducted for pregnancy have been trials of rabbits and mice. There was one very small study conducted on humans in Europe, but the study population was tiny and I wouldn’t think it overly reliable. I am wary of allowing myself to be injected with a vaccine whilst pregnant, before rigorous clinical trials are conducted on humans. Your thoughts?”

“My thoughts?” asked Doctor Eminem. “Well…um…my thoughts are that you shouldn’t get the booster during pregnancy.”

“But Doc!” I gasped. “Australia is in the middle of its worst ever whooping cough epidemic! And by administering the booster shot to pregnant women between weeks 28 and 32 of their pregnancy, they pass partial immunity to their baby! I need the shot!”

(As you can see…it was like I was playing devils advocate with myself and my doctor was merely along for the wackadoodle ride.)

“Yes it’s true that the booster does provide partial immunity for the baby.” the doctor agreed. “But you personally are already protected by your recent vaccination and everyone in your family is protected. If you plan to isolate the baby prior to her first round of shots when she’s six weeks old then don’t even worry about it. That’s a good level of protection. Then you won’t have to worry about the validity of the research into administration of the vaccine during pregnancy.”

So basically…I went into the appointment hoping my doctor would debunk my concerns regarding the anti-d injection and the whooping cough vaccination, and instead I technically won both the arguments and the end result was no shots for me. And the truth is that was not the outcome I wanted! I really want the shots! I just wanted him to prove me wrong! Argh!!

I’m still pretty certain I’m going to go ahead and get the whooping cough booster shot. I don’t like the idea of her being exposed, even if I keep her at home. I guess I have a few weeks to decide.

And now I’m going to ask for some of that anecdotal evidence I try so hard to avoid!!

Did you get the anti-d (rogam) injection whilst pregnant? Did you ever worry about it affecting your baby?

Did you get a whooping cough booster whilst pregnant? Did you feel safer knowing your baby had partial immunity?

Oh oh! And can anyone share a story with me about elective labour induction? Or just induction in general? What was recovery like? Were you able to move around? Did you need an epidural? Did your baby have breathing problems?

Hit me with your lovely anecdotes!!

Lots of love,

Sadie xx

p.s I think this post definitively proves I’m basically incapable of writing anything less than 2000 words even when I’m not moaning about my stressful life. #sorrynotsorry

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16 thoughts on “Oops my doctor thinks I’m a wackadoodle…

  1. I was in a car accident at 15 weeks (not a bad one) and got it then. No problems. My one year old hits milestones early and is a social butterfly.

    I did feel safer getting the whooping cough vax. I’d do it again. He’s still not had it and there’s a breakout here.

    • Thank you! The whooping cough break outs worry me. Levels are at a record high here too (I suspect they are everywhere right now) and I’ve actually had whooping cough. It was so horrible I was off work for a month I can’t imagine a little baby going through it. I’m definitely leaning towards the vax for myself.

  2. I did both and felt good about both. Here (in the states or at least with my OB), you get rhogam around 28 weeks (if Rh negative) and then again after birth if baby is positive. My daughter was negative too so i didn’t get it a second time. she is now 14 months, super social and outgoing and meeting or beating all milestones. Good for you for making an informed decision!

    • Thank you that’s very helpful! Not sure why in Australia our standard shots are 28 and 36 weeks. I’ve never hesitated to have the shot in the past I think I’m just over thinking things now…

  3. Hi Sadie!
    I’m the mother of three (16, 12 and 8) and if my very first labour was a natural one, I had induction for my second and third children. For Number 2, having induction was a relief because I had had tiring contractions for days and I was exhausted. I couldn’t have an epidural (due to thrombocytopenia) so he was born very quickly and the pain was strong but I don’t regret any part of it! I have what the doctors call “contractile uterus” and I had had contractions from the very beginning so giving birth was a great relief!
    For Number 3 it was elective induction because I still had severe thrombocytopenia (along with GD!!! Yippee!) and the level of white blood cells was still decreasing so we couldn’t wait too long… And it allowed us to organize things for her brothers and for my husband. That time, the anaesthetist took the risk to let me have a “light” epidural (I’m a bit of a sissy!!) and my daughter was born a few hours later. I had no recovery problems and neither had the kids. People say that induction is more painful and I must admit that I agree with this statement. Things are more rushed up and the body doesn’t have the same time to cope with pain or at least to adapt to it. here is my experience even if it’s not an up-to-date one!
    One last thing (and I hope it won’t ban me from here), I’ve never had any infertility problems. if I’m here it’s because 3 different couples in my family have suffered from it and I’m concerned about it) So, maybe my opinion on induction would have been different if i had had to go through the ordeal of infertility…

    • Thank you so much for this info it’s great to hear the stories of someone who has had both natural and induced labour. What was the time difference between the natural labour and the induced labours? How much quicker were the induced labours? So you didn’t see any difference in the health outcomes for your induced baby?

      • Well, for my first son (natural labour), it took about 8 hours. For my second son, it took 4 hours: I was given ocytocin at 9 o’clock am and he was born at 1 pm! For my daughter it took much more time. I was given ocytocin at 9 am and she was born at 5 pm… the day after!!! The contractions were useless on the first day but really bearable. I had lots of them during the night and those ones were efficient. My babies were fine and I really saw no difference in the aftermath…

  4. I got 3 rhogams! 1 while spotting at 10 weeks, 1 at 28 weeks, and 1 after birth. No issues, and G currently doesn’t display any signs of a spectrum disorder

    I did NOT get the pertussis vaccine though. I’m allergic to it, and they won’t touch me with a 10ft pole with that vaccine under normal circumstances, but while pregnant they all but vacated the building of them. We made it mandatory that anyone in proximity to her before 6 wks had to have a booster. No exceptions.

    All worked out well!! 🙂

    • Thank you! Same as you I’m not going to let anyone see my baby unless they’ve had their vax. If you weren’t allergic do you think you would have got it?

      • Yup. The pros far outweigh the cons, and though there aren’t studies on it, SO many women have received it as part of their prenatal care that if there was something that it caused, I believe it would have been noticed. (Eg, as with Zofran and birth defects)
        I just looked at it as, I don’t have any reason to believe the vaccine will hurt my baby. But I have every reason to believe whooping cough could kill her.

  5. I was induced. You can read my birth story if you want. I had an epidural placed since I was high risk for c section as I was having a vbac. I ended up just getting one small shot of epidural during transition. It didn’t actually numb me but it dulled the pain so I could breathe. I could still move around and get on hands and knees etc and I did. Although I wasn’t allowed out of bed at that point. I also had an IV but I was allowed to push it around and walk the halls. It was actually not a bad experience although I’d love to have a 100% natural birth someday. No induction. But I did it because I thought I needed to for my baby.

  6. And I should mention that I had no PPD with my induced baby (although I’d started having regular contractions do I think I was starting labor on my own anyway) but I did with my urgent c section baby whom I never had labor with. So there is a lot of truth to the hormones you get during labor being a help in the post partum days, IMO.

  7. I just had my whooping cough booster – purely for the bub as I’m up to date already. If there’s a chance it will prevent him from contracting pertussis then I’m all for it.
    Anti D I can’t comment on but I believe I would have had it if I were in your shoes. Yes, it used to be administered later but how much have the rates of complications etc reduced since the introduction of the shot during pregnancy? That’s what I’d be looking at and basing my decision on.
    As for the epidural. I had a “natural” birth for a 1st baby until she was stuck and her head started to swell (long story). The epidural was then administered and only took on the left side of my body. Not great.
    Meanwhile since then 2 close friends have had their 2nd baby and chosen to get the epidural proactively and both had calm, painless and smooth births and have said how amazing it was when compared to their first. I did not ever hear of the epidural blocking the production of post birth hormones???? Though it makes sense that it would potentially inhibit the brains production of endorphins during birth. No pain, no endorphins required!
    This birth I am ‘planning’ to request an epidural early on and bring little boy into the world in as calm an environment as is possible.
    (Meanwhile my birth plan is literally “1. Give birth. The end.”)
    Good luck love. Any decision you make will be the right one because you are making it to the best of your ability.

    • Thanks for your insights! I’m definitely leaning towards getting the whooping cough vax. Your birth plan sounds a lot like my current plan –
      1. Go into labour
      2. Give birth
      3. Not wake up and find I dreamed the baby

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